Here is a question submitted to me from one of our readers. He is having trouble with being upside down on a car loan. He makes $42,000 a year household income. I will post the question answer it based on what I would do if I were in his shoes.
I have a 2004 Nissan Altima that I am upside down on. I owe $15,800 on it and the Trade in value is $10,500. I went to Toyota Dealer and they are having incentives of $5,000 if you lease a Tundra. I’m looking at leasing a Tundra for 3yrs at a payment of $450-$500 a month. Currently I pay $400 a month on the Altima with a 10% interest rate as you see I’m upside down due to my situation when I purchased the car. I have 3yrs to pay off the Altima or I can lease a Tundra for 3yrs and after 3yrs be debt fee of a car and get out from being upside down. I dont know which way to take on this due to I have a 1986 4runner which runs overall great but If it were to DIE on me in 3yrs I’d be in trouble. So my questions is do a Lease the Tundra and get out of being upside down or do I keep the Altima and pay it off? Please Help me!
Money Crashers Reader, I would not take either options if I were you. Please understand that I am only answering the question based on what I would do if I were in your shoes. First of all, with an income of $42k, you take home about $2500 to $2600 a month. You simply cannot afford to be putting $400 to $500 a month towards a car payment whether it’s a car you own or a car you lease. That would mean that 20% of your household income is going towards a car. If 25 to 30% of your income is going toward rent/mortgage, then that only leaves you 50% left for utilities, house bills, food, gas, insurance, and any other debt payments that you already pay. This car payment is making you feel poor, so do everything in your power to get rid of it. If you only had a year left to pay off the car, then I would say stick with it and try to pay it off early. But, you’ve got 3 years left, so paying it off is not a good option.
As far as leasing a Tundra, I think this is a very bad option. You’re obviously having problems paying the $400 payment, so why would you go and get a $450 to $500 payment? Plus, you’ll need to put money down when you sign for the lease, and you won’t even have a car after 3 years. At least you would own a car after three years if you stuck with paying off the Altima. If I had to choose between the two options that you proposed, I would say stick with paying off the Altima rather than getting the Tundra.
My Solution: You’re not going to like my solution, but here it goes. If I were you, I would sell the Altima in a private party sale. I looked up the private sale value of your car with the average miles of 53,000, a 4-cylinder 2.5S, and a rating of “good”. The value came out to about $12,000. Put a listing on Craigslist.com in the nearest big city to you. If the car is in good shape, I guarantee you’ll have 5 or 6 phone calls about this car within a week at that price. So, you owe $15,800 and you sell the car for $12K, now you have to get the remaining $3,800. Go to your local credit union or local bank and request an unsecured loan for $6,000. As long as your credit isn’t trashed, you should be able to get it. The reason you make it $6,000, is because you’ll use the remaining amount to buy a $2,200, reliable car. Yes, there is such a thing, you just have to know where to find them. You find ugly cars with low mileage somewhere out in the country where Grandma only use it to drive to the grocery store and back. Now, if you are single and you own the 1986 4runner, then you can just drive the 4runner until you are in a position to buy a better car with cash. You did not mention if the 4runner was your wife’s car or not.
What you have done is you have reduced your debt from $16k to either 6k or 4k depending on the 4runner situation. That is a significant reduction in debt. The next thing that you do is go and find a job that pays well based on tips like waiting tables, delivering pizzas, or valeting cars. Work this extra job for 6 to 12 months and knock out that loan. Then, start building up some cash to upgrade to a more reliable and better looking car. If you stick to paying cash for cars, paying yourself, and slowly upgrading to newer cars every year or two, you’ll soon own a nice car without any car payments. Car payments is what got you in trouble, so why would you go out and get another one?
I hope that makes sense. Readers, chime in with your two sense and tell me why you think I’m right or wrong. If you would like to ask me a question about your finances or something that we talk about on moneycrashers, Click Here, and I will research your question and answer it with what I would do.